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Name: Connie S.
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Age: 50s
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Date: 6/25/2003


Question:
Hello. I have a question that I am sure you will have the answer to. What side of the aluminum foil should be on the outside when I wrap something up in it to keep warm or cold? The shiny side or the dull? I was at a grill out last week and was told that the shiny side should be on the inside and the dull side of the aluminum foil should be on the outside.


Replies:
Connie,

The shiny side is slightly better reflector of heat. Face that side of the foil in the appropriate direction. To keep things cold, put the shiny side on the outside -- that will reflect incoming heat. To keep things warm, face the shiny side inward toward the hot food -- to reflect the heat that is trying to escape back into the food.

Note that people often bake potatoes with the shiny side out -- that is because it makes for a better (prettier) presentation. In reality, baking them that way reflects the incoming heat on the outside, slightly slowing the cooking process.

Of course, in reality, which side of the foil faces where makes little difference. It does make for lively conversation, though.

Regards,
ProfHoff 686


There is no difference in which side you use. The difference in the surface of aluminum foil is a result of the manufacturing process and has no bearing on heat retention or reflection.

Chris Murphy


As a practical matter, it probably does not matter because convection is overwhelming any difference in reflectance of shiny vs. dull side of the foil. The science is that you are balancing the E = K* T^4 law, where T is the absolute temperature in kelvins, K is a constant, and E is the energy transferred. The value of 'K' depends upon the details of the reflectance of the surface. But the target "hamburger-in-foil-on-the-grill" is, in practice, very complicated. The charcoal is radiating heat to the burger from below (which is highly variable depending upon the surface temperature of the coals. On top the burger-foil is losing heat energy to the surroundings, but it is virtually impossible to assign an "average" temperature to the surroundings. To make matters worse, the aluminum foil is "crinkled" so that the reflecting surface is not uniform, and on the "dull" side the reflectance is not even specular, i.e. there is a range of angles of reflection for a specified angle of incidence, and that "range" depends upon the angle of reflectance.

Now what DOES make a difference with respect to aluminum foil in general, either on the grill or in the oven is this. DO NOT let the aluminum foil contact an acidic ingredient, like tomato sauce, catsup.. At oven (or grill) temperature the acidic ingredient will dissolve the aluminum foil. Although Al(+3) is not especially toxic, contact with acidic foods at high temperature should be avoided.

Vince Calder


Connie,

Short answer: I believe that the dull side should be out.

Long answer:

That would be my answer too. The only real scientific basis that I can think of for this answer is: Radiative heating / cooling. I have done no experiments to prove one way or the other though. The goal is to maximize heat transfer. Heat transfer can happen by CONDUCTIVE, CONVECTIVE, and RADIATIVE means.

Conductive heating will happen by the hot grill in direct contact with the foil. This mode is limited by the thermal conductivity of the foil.

Convective heating will happen by the hot air movement around the foil and transferring its heat to the surface. Then it will also be limited by the a heat transfer coefficient based on how fast the air is moving and of course the temperature difference between the foil and the hot air.

Radiative heating will happen by the absorption of infrared radiation (IR radiation) or heat emanating from all around the food (within the BBQ). Now please consider infrared radiation to be in the wavelength range of 880 nanometers or so. Realize that this wavelength of "light" is very near the color red in the visible portion of the spectrum. Further, this means that the radiation will act like light and the foil shall act as a mirror. Knowing now that you want to transmit (foil to absorb all radiation) as much IR through the foil as possible. It should be clear to you that the dull side should be OUTWARD facing so as not to minimize the reflection of IR radiation.

Hope this helps,

Darin Wagner


Shiny side IN if you want to keep the contents warm (eg. human body); shiny side OUT if you want to keep heat out.

Howard Barnes.



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