Department of Energy Argonne National Laboratory Office of Science NEWTON's Homepage NEWTON's Homepage
NEWTON, Ask A Scientist!
NEWTON Home Page NEWTON Teachers Visit Our Archives Ask A Question How To Ask A Question Question of the Week Our Expert Scientists Volunteer at NEWTON! Frequently Asked Questions Referencing NEWTON About NEWTON About Ask A Scientist Education At Argonne Testing for iron in fruit juice
Name: Elaine
Status: N/A
Age: N/A
Location: N/A
Country: N/A
Date: 1999 


Question:
I am in the fifth grade. I have been conducting an experiment to see if fruit juices contain iron. I put a teaspoonful of each of five juices in a test tube (one tube for each type of juice.) Then I put a teaspoonful of tea in each tube. I conducted the experiment several times with the same result. A precipitate formed in the tube containing pineapple juice. Since I have read that this is a way to test for iron, I assume that iron in the pineapple juice has reacted in some way with the tannic acid in the tea. I would like to know more about the reaction. Can anyone tell me the chemical equation that describes it? In what form is the iron dissolved in the pineapple juice at the beginning? What is the name of the substance that is precipitated? Also, why doesn't it work with prune juice, even though the prune juice is supposed to have more iron than the pineapple juice?

Thanks for your help.



Replies:
Hi Elaine,

An excellent question. Glad to see that you are doing some careful thinking about an experiment that you've done!

I am still looking into this, but I think I can give you a little preliminary info. First of all, I think that you are forming iron(II)sulfide, which is insoluble. Although I don't yet know the formula of tannic acid, it may contain sulfur.... A lot of this is actually guesswork, based on the fact that you are making a black, insoluble iron-containing compound.

It may not work so well in prune juice due to the fact that prune juice is so dark that the presence of a black precipitate may not be obvious. Another possibility is that iron sulfide might be more soluble in prune juice than pineapple juice due to the difference in pH. I'd expect pineapple juice to be much more acidic than prune juice. You can test this out by adding a little acid to the prune juice before adding the tea...you could use a weak acid, like acetic acid (vinegar) for this. Chemists often adjust the pH to adjust solubility, especially if the anion of the insoluble compound could conceivably be part of an acid-base reaction.

If I can find out more detailed info, I'll post it here!

topper


By the way, if iron(II) sulfide is what is precipitating, I'd guess that the iron was originally in the form Fe2+... not necesarily though, could be Fe3+, or some combination.

topper


Elaine told me offline that the precipitate is sort of orangish, not black at all...I need to go back and look in my old qual ID book, not sure about that one...

topper


Whoops, more complications...Elaine did some detective work and found that tannic acid contains no sulfur... I was at least correct in remembering that Fe^{2+} can be precipitated as FeS. But looking in my old text, it seems that FeS is only insoluble if the solution is basic...thus the role that tannic acid is obscure to me... however FeS (and its cousin, FeS_2), is typically black...

So where the heck would the sulfur come from? I Just Don't Know the answer to this one.... blush

topper



Click here to return to the Chemistry Archives

NEWTON is an electronic community for Science, Math, and Computer Science K-12 Educators, sponsored and operated by Argonne National Laboratory's Educational Programs, Andrew Skipor, Ph.D., Head of Educational Programs.

For assistance with NEWTON contact a System Operator (help@newton.dep.anl.gov), or at Argonne's Educational Programs

NEWTON AND ASK A SCIENTIST
Educational Programs
Building 360
9700 S. Cass Ave.
Argonne, Illinois
60439-4845, USA
Update: February 2012
Weclome To Newton

Argonne National Laboratory